Is More Money Made In Property Or In A Pension?

Is More Money Made In Property Or In A Pension?
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Having recently claimed to be unable to make the remotest sense of pensions, Bank of England Chief Economist Andy Haldane is now suggesting property could be better than a pension for retirement

Invest In Property Or Invest In A Pension: That Is The Question?

Is Property Better For Your Retirement Than A Pension?

In a recent interview with The Times, Bank of England Chief Economist Andy Haldane compared investing in property with investing in a pension for retirement.  Here are two of the questions and answers from the interview.

 
 

Andy Haldane

Bank of England Chief Economist

What’s Better For Retirement — Property Or Pension?

It ought to be pension but it’s almost certainly property. As long as we continue not to build anything like as many houses in this country as we need to meet demand, we will see what we’ve had for the better part of a generation, which is house prices relentlessly heading north. I would quite like the day to come when that wasn’t the case, but we’ve got a lot of catching up to do.

Do You Own A Property?

We have a house in Surrey — I commute, unfortunately — and a little cottage on the Kent coast, in Deal. We bought the Surrey house in 2002 for about £600,000. I couldn’t tell you a single thing about my mortgage, beyond the fact it’s an offset deal.

Andy Haldane’s View Of Property And Pension

Based on his earlier speech on pensions, if Andy can’t make "the remotest sense of pensions, it begs the question how he’s able to conclude that property, or anything else for that matter, is a better bet than a pension, even if it may be.

Let’s look at the numbers to get a clue.

According to The Times, it’s discovered from the Bank of England’s latest annual report that Andy has built up a pension currently worth £83,618 per year.  HMRC values this pension for Lifetime Allowance purposes at £1,672,360. 

Based on his answers above, chances are the current value of his pension is very close to the current value of his properties.  And if you factor in the cost of his mortgage over the years, his pension may indeed be his most valuable asset.  Interestingly, that’s also the position for many other people too.

It seems Andy’s pension is in pretty good shape and he needn’t worry.  That’s because it’s one of the most valuable pensions in the UK.  Perhaps that's why he doesn't take much interest in how it works.

Property Pension Debate Rages

When the Bank of England Chief Economist speaks, it’s reasonable people listen.  It’s also no surprise that key voices in both the property and pension industries are having their two-penneth as a result of his comments.  Here’s a snapshot for you.


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What Is Best For You: Property Or Pension?

There’s clearly no simple answer.  Both are long term investments and both are accompanied by advantages and disadvantages. 

You could, of course, combine the benefits of property ownership and the tax advantages of a pension by investing in commercial property within a SIPP. Andy’s comparison, however, referred to ‘houses’ not commercial property, and residential property can’t be held within a SIPP without you incurring horrendous penalties and charges from HMRC.

The most obvious conclusion is that diversification is probably the best bet.  Putting all your eggs in one basket is rarely a good idea.  So whether Andy has achieved it by accident or by design, in addition to the stocks and shares he says he holds via an ISA, Andy looks to have a pretty good spread of property, pension and other assets. 

And that’s reassuring, considering he’s a current member of the Bank of England’s Monetary Policy Committee whose decisions can seriously affect the returns on both property and pensions!

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